boehner got rid of all the tea party members in charge of the committees, he dump them all in the middle of the night and no one paid attention. that was ding ding ding. it should frighten people. i would say in most cases though deal is not as good as a deal but if they go with what the president lays on the table --. >>neil: i don't know. no deal does mean a really bad deal. >> i this is not, by the way you mentioned the redskins football game, the giants, it is not a contest, a football game. who wins and who loses, democrats and republicans. we are all going to lose if they don't get together. look, they have something on the table called simpson-bowles. all they have to do is follow it. senator congresser laid out a 262-page plan, very detailed and gave it to everyone and they are not paying attention to it. >>neil: it is time for me to save the country. that was drawn to scale. there we go again. >> i need those vitamins you are taking. >>neil: go ahead and laugh. michelle, i think there is a middle ground, you know you can be dogmatic about there and you argue to everyone calming